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The "Did you know you were gay?" question

One thing all gay men who have had relationships with women, and this is especially true if you are blessed with children, is the inevitable. "Did you know you were gay?" question. This conundrum seems to be a real mind-melt for a lot of people, especially when they have had little exposure to the gay thing, generally speaking.

I have lost count of how many times I have been asked that question by virtual strangers. There have been many times when my inner Paul has screamed "mind your own god damn business, when did you lose your cherry and what has my sexuality got to do with you"? While the outer more personable Paul smiles and responds with a more cordial, and socially usable cue card from the pile we all carry in our virtual back pockets, with something along the lines of "Well yes I did but it was a part of me I buried" etc etc etc.

I find the worst culprits are women who are in dull relationships themselves or terminally single and immediately find you non threatening. They then put you in the "oh my god I would never have known, why is it all the gay guys are the cute ones?" box. We all know fellas ... you will need to be armed with something a little more barbed, than a pretzel in a social gathering, in order shake some of these lovely ladies off. That is if you don't really want to get into a perceived "girly" chat about your sex life, or worse the apparent lack of theirs. It can be hard to not appear remote or insular on these occasions.

As we move further into a more relaxed Libertarian society, we are very much the frontier cowboys in this shift and that can be hard for people to understand. That is human nature, but we do need to allow for this sometimes. Ignorance is much better dealt with by way of empathy and honesty I believe, but on our terms. What people may say to our faces, is not always what they actually feel from the heart, lets be honest about it. On lots of levels we are saying. "I am different from you". I still have something to offer and I am doing my best to be a good parent, but I am different. I would like to buy myself a T-shirt that reads "Gay dad" with an arrow pointing to Emily, when we are together. It would save so many questions.

-Paul

Thanks

Thanks

Hi Peter. I appreciate your

Hi Peter. I appreciate your comments.

If my inner thoughts make people think and create a reaction, that in my opinion is a positive thing. Whether individuals like it or not, there are lots of guys like me out there. A minority yes but loving committed dads just the same. And that is my only axe to grind. I will of course base my thoughts on my own personal experiences. I am not going to base them on anyone else’s now am I?
I generally believe that a collective is that, a collective. Not an edited sanitized version of someone's interpretation of what is deemed acceptable. I have a right to my opinions. My gay male friends include a marksman in MI5, a soldier, a builder and many others over the years that can crack bones by staring at them. I am an avid climber, I go green laneing in the best boys toy you can have, a brand spanking new, 4x4 Land Rover Defender in my spare time. I am more masculine than many of my hetero friends. I have a mix of people from all backgrounds in my life, and I have learnt a lot from this. It is interesting to see that you feel your opinion is deemed more valid than mine, just because you are straight. To quote “Thought this was about being a dad and better fathering ideas...? Not sexual inclination... save it for other web sites thx!”
I don’t recall going into any detail about my sex life, and that was exactly my point. My stance is that of a man who is a dad and who happens to be gay, and finding that people are more interested in my sexuality, than my talents as a father. This is born of ignorance and that was my point.
My thoughts were about encouraging open honest communication with our children, In order to do this we sometimes have to face our own demons and grow as an individual; easier said than done I know.
I don’t have an axe to grind fella. I am most defiantly more together and happier than the majority of people I meet. Two vital components in being a successful parent.
Life experience varies little from person to person. The journey may have a different view, but we all feel the same in our hearts and heads. It is only ever a matter of degree.
I'll keep my postings "reasonably" palatable!

My final word on the subject (I promise and then I'll get off my soap box) is that Em, my daughter has the final say and we have a fantastic relationship that other "straight" dads who have had to dad remotely, would look on and envy, given the same set of circumstances. I have a lot to offer anyone open enough to hear me based on being a dad of 20 years.

Be happy mate!

Paul

Hey Peter - you're a good

Hey Peter - you're a good sport re being off topic! :-) I see where you're coming from ... this site will not turn into a winge fest on any topic. I think it's fair enough though to cover a wide range of dad related topics (including racial discrimination and saving the planet ... if and when it is relevant). We received quite a few emails from people saying that they hoped our site also covered topics that are not just about the "conventional" married with 2.4 kids happy family. If you feel that we are giving any particular topic too much presence - please let us know. -Stef

I've been a Stay-at-Home Dad

I've been a Stay-at-Home Dad for many years and have met a few other's like me.
What bugs me is that some feel they have to act like women, become effeminate. I kept my counsel but i wanted to scream " be a man, ya girl's blouse". Maybe they were gay, i don't know and i don't care.
After spending all week talking to women and children, i would've gone completely nuts if not every Thursday night, I would go out with my male mates.
It was fantastic to be gruff, shallow and coarse one day a week.
Talking to women is hard work...

So finding out about a male forum for parenting felt like a godsend to me. To have it taken over by gay angst is not what i want to happen...
I know just don't read them, but i was hopeful of knocking it on the head before you get every gay with some percieved sob story logging on and revealing all.
Isn't being a Maori,Polynesian or Asian father coming on this site and complaining about racism a little bit off topic too? I believe so.
Maybe it's not, maybe i have it all wrong. But i felt this article had crossed the line into another area.
Stories about getting frowned upon by women, sick children and activities to do with your children are all things most father's can relate to and are interested in.

Stories on Racism,Gay issues and Saving the Planet are all valid but can go on the other forums that populate the web. Whadda ya thunk?

Ug...I've fallen into my own trap... this is sooo off topic!

Hey Peter - this site is not

Hey Peter - this site is not predominately about sexual preferences or inclination. But it is about sharing experiences of fathers around the world. Paul is doing just that - sharing his experiences as a gay dad and how other people react to that. So I do think his story has a place on our site.

Thought this was about being

Thought this was about being a dad and better fathering ideas...?

Not sexual inclination... save it for other web sites thx!

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